Jeff and I spent the past week at Podcast Movement, and came away with a number of things authors can learn from podcasters. We begin with a chat Jeff had with Joanna Penn from The Creative Penn Podcast. He gets her thoughts on the conference and her top three takeaways for authors. We talk about other things we heard and experienced during the conference that writers can relate to their business, including tips from Pat Flynn, Patrice Williams and Bryan Orr.

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